Thanks everyone i lost 60, 000 this time last year with APG and now Tom Silver is ringing me again asking to put more money into Betallmarkets so beware this bastard is still around, and yes happy to join a class action oh and stay away from Winchester Securities.
regards Digger

thankyou everyone, you may have just saved me some money. I have sent emails to betallmarkets, to get company info such as, address, contact name, ph.no etc. I have had no replies.
You would would think I would learn, a year or so ago I lost quite a bit off money for a mob called westcore Capital,
Now betallmarkets are hooked up with Voss Capital Management, maybe its just me, but any company with the word Capital involved I will from now on check out twice.
again thanks for the warnings.

I've been ripped off for $4000.00. If anyone would like to try and start some sort of court action against these people please count me in. Email address is [email protected]
Would love to bring these pricks down. The people I have delt with at APG are Des Winters, Tom Silver and now Nic James. If I ever meet Tom Silver in the street I would run him over and then back up again and run him over one more time. I tried to get my account so I could do electronic transfer for both deposit and withdrawal and he told me if I placed another $5k into the account he would see what he could do but wouldnt guarantee anything. He tried for 3 weeks to get me to place more money in the account and then when I told him he was out of his head and I wasnt going to put any more into this scam he hung up on me. Now he has supposidly left the company, very convenient.

I was looking at joining them, not now. Thanks for the info folks.
Have been trying to see the web site but all of a sudden can't log in.

Yes i have been a victim of both it seems . Those bastards at APG are scum. $46.000 i have lost with them and every time i wanted money from the account to repay my credit card they said wait til it gets bigger. Then it loses the next 3 bets. Them pricks don't give a shit about people. I have just noticed that Betallmarkets, i can't access the site . Some other parallel page keeps popping up. And its funny how when you want to speak to Rae Hughes shes out on the road. Now for a company that works from there office, why is she on the road. It sounds like i have been suckered again but for a lesser amount this time . Some things needs to be done about these pricks . I will be happy to join anything against them, they must stop destroying peoples lives with there lies